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N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:38 pm
by N4sirC
I just got banned for 4 weeks and 2 days for using a hacked client, but i did nothing. Obviously you don't believe me so if there is any proof i can give you that would help my case, you name it and i'll send it. Unfortunately, I was not recording so I can't send you a video.

Many thanks,
N4sirC

Re: N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:57 am
by Turbo
wHeN iS pArT 4 cOmInG oUt?

Re: N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:05 pm
by pale1
Here is the evidence that I captured from spectating you. A lot of the time you seem to know where people are which makes me suspicious that you are using x-ray to locate players.

https://youtu.be/R15Cwz2rFb4

Re: N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:09 pm
by N4sirC
I can sort of see why you guys are suspicious, the first two kills on dust looked very suspicious, but i assure you i only knew they were there because they were there the last three rounds as well, so I assumed they were going to do it again, and they did so I shot them.

The first kill on Aztec, I shot through the wood blocks which is always suspicious, but I assure you I just knew the enemies would be there because (fun fact) if you recorded every game of Aztec every played, you would see that 95% of the time, people go to that location.

Personally, I think that the first kill on Monty was pretty human reaction time.

The time when i was jumping and firing with the Honcho on Aztec look suspicious too, and as bad of an excuse as this is, I was just testing the bullet spread when you jumped with the Honcho, the location was irrelevant.

The first kill on Kometta was obvious, I saw him peek out and I just followed him.

The second kill on Kometta was also pretty human reaction time, notice that I mostly missed.

Then, I died from DALITTLEA because I didn't know he would be there, if you look closely, all of the kills that looked hacked and prefired were when I could predict where the enemy would be, but DALITTLEA just showing up next to my spawn wasn't predicted so I panicked and died.

I later died from Monty and I knew his location because he killed me, I went to go flank him and once again, I didn't predict he would be right there.

I knew that DALITTLEA was on the bridge because you could see the bullets.

Kill on Monty was human.

DALITTLEA was walking in the open in a straight line, easy kill.

Someone being in that room was obvious because again, 95% of people go there at some point in the game, so I was flanking to see if anyone was in there, and that on Kometta kill looked human too.

After I killed Kometta, Monty instantly go suspicious of me for no apparent reason and decided to ban me.

If you asked a pro at this game to look over the footage, I don't know what they would think, but there are some obvious tactics that i used (flank, choke points, enemy awareness) that would mabye look like I knew where everyone was, but really I was just predicting movements because I've been playing on this server for a while now and I know the routs and tactics that people play.

If you would like to talk further on the matter I would be happy to supply a good debate against your claims.

Please watch the video and read my notes here and then tell me why you still think i'm hacking.

Re: N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:29 pm
by TotalyRosssome
0:39-0:40, you shot right before people peaked the boxes both times, second shot was when dalittlea stopped right there, right where you were aiming, with no indication of you seeing him.
2:10-2:20, you wait for the person highlighted to peak, and when he drops down, you immediately start walking to the bridge to look under. It's probable that you heard him, but also very probable that other people were shooting at the same time, so you have a very low chance of hearing them drop.
2:20-2:25, very obvious of you looking straight at the highlighted player way back through the walls, and then going straight to Dalittlea on the other side
2:30-2:35, again very obvious looking through walls at a far off highlighted player

Looking at players at least 50 blocks away through about 5 layers w/o any sense of sound isn't enemy awareness, that's Xray/tracers/ESP
again, you were not looking at entrances and exits to hallways and passages, but right at the player.
I think this is a well supported ban with the evidence provided. Even if you took a video, there are still Ghost Clients (no overlay)

Re: N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:44 pm
by N4sirC
To be honest, all of the timestamps you just mentioned do very much look like hack now that I take a closer look. I'm not sure what I was thinking at the time, but one of two things could have happened. At 0:34, the guys gun barrel was peeking from behind the boxes and I saw it, or I decided to prefire the boxes to check for an enemy because, again, 95% of people go here so I though I would check it out and because to the new xp system, it now tells you when you damaged an enemy, so prefiring through walls is now beneficial to locate enemy positions.

Unfortunately, I can't totally disprove that I was hacking at 2:10-2:20, it was a coincidence that I moved as soon as he dropped, but if you'll notice, if I were a hacker I would probably have dropped off of that bridge to get the kill.

Same deal at 2:20-2:25, I was just going to reposition and I happened to go the same way at DALITTLEA. To be fair though, you can't honestly blame me for hacking just because I went the same way as someone once or twice, that happens like all day every day.

The last one is the hardest to disapprove, if I saw someone else do this, I would think that they were hacking too. When I looked at the first guy in the middle I was just aiming my head in the general direction that I wanted to go in (literally everyone does that), when I looked at the second guy on the left, I was checking the entrance to that room, and when I looked at the third guy to the right, I was checking that entrance too, and there was someone there so I was smart to check it, but my human reactions didn't notice him peeking in time, so I died.

Re: N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:23 pm
by Breaks
Avengers: Endgame is coming out April 25th for those who are asking for part 4

Re: N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:55 pm
by Montymarks
If you do the hacc, he will do the attacc

Re: N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:16 pm
by pale1
We're standing by our original decision. You will be unbanned in 3 weeks and 5 days.

Re: N4sirC's Ban Appeal Part 3

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:26 pm
by Trexar
Lock? Breaks